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Wow, it has been an interesting week.

by Tod Massa 20. September 2013 23:16

First, we went to Radford University for the Council meeting and the annual joint meeting with Council of Presidents. After eight months of work with the TJ21 Implementation committee, the enrollment projections and degree estimates were adopted with few questions by committee and Council. This work is key to demonstrating institution commitment to achieve the Commonwealth goal of 100,000 cumulative additional degrees awarded to in-state undergraduates by 2025 for public institutions, and a like proportion for private, nonprofit institutions. These projections, as approved by Council take us to right around 69,000 for public institutions and about 20,000 for private institutions. With these measures, I am confident in achieving the goal originally set by Governor McDonnell that also exists in TJ21.

 

A number of my friends and colleagues were at Stanford University Monday and Tuesday for the fall AEI Higher Ed Forum. Many of them were joined by other friends in Seattle for the Gates Foundation convening for #HigherEdNext. Following the convening via Twitter was pretty interesting and made me wish I had been there. I retweeted a number of comments I found interesting, but that only works for those who follow @SCHEVResearch.

Here are some samples:

College Summit ‏@CollegeSummit1h

RT @jselingo: 2 most common among dropouts: 1) Unsure if degree is worth it 2)Lack family support & college knowledge #higherednext

 

Georgetown CEW ‏@CntrEdWrkfrce6h

@gatesed : Every movement needs a #message: Go Forth And Shatter the Status Quo! #highered #higherednext

 

Patrick Rossol ‏@prossolallison9h

Do we have the right type of data for different users in higher ed? #higherednext

 

Shanna Jaggars ‏@sjaggars19 Sep

@eduKanCEO says focus on replicating “best practices” is misplaced if those practices aren’t all that great. #HigherEdNext

 

Jamie Glenn ‏@jamieglenn19 Sep

< 50% of employers think students are prepared to enter workforce while 72% of educators think they are ready #higherednext

 

 Jeff Selingo ‏@jselingo19 Sep

Too many college students uncertain about decision & unsure they'll finish. Why we need more pathways: http://shar.es/iP9V5  #higherednext

Zakiya Smith ‏@SmithZakiya19 Sep

"Bad data leads to bad decisions!" #higherednext

 

Georgetown CEW ‏@CntrEdWrkfrce18 Sep

#access to #highered is no longer enough, our new goal is student #completion & ensuring career #success @dan_greenstein #higherednext

 

Katie Crawford ‏@seattleroad18 Sep

@BillGates - before we were measuring [student success], we were comfortable doing a horrifically bad job #higherednext

 

Amy Laitinen ‏@amylaitinen118 Sep

Carnevale: it's hard to be a lifelong learner if you're not a lifetime earner #higherednext

 

Amy Laitinen ‏@amylaitinen118 Sep

Yup. RT @mdpistilli: Said Stan Jones (also here), access w/o success is an empty promise. #higherednext

 

Meanwhile, over on the East coast, we had the #TimeEdSummit:

Goldie Blumenstyk ‏@GoldieStandard9h

Whoa. @arneduncan just read the riot act to highered about its resistance to the new rating system #TimeEdSummit

 

Lumina Foundation ‏@LuminaFound19 Sep

RT @jamieindy: At the Time summit on #highered discussing the big changes coming--whether we're ready or not. #timeedsummit

 

Beverly Daniel Tatum ‏@BDTSpelman19 Sep

Rice says that there is need for creativity that comes from humanities, arts, social sciences, but too many can't write well #TIMEEdSummit

 

APLU Gov't Affairs ‏@APLU_GovAffairs6h

NYC Bloomberg discussing years of budget starvation by states & calling out the importance of land-grants and public #highered #TimeEdSummit

 

Carnegie Corporation ‏@CarnegieCorp7h

Research universities centerpieces of econ development in their regions, says Scott Stern @MITSloan #innovation #TimeEdSummit

 

 

As I said, lots of interesting stuff happening. I find Twitter to be very useful. I also follow a very narrow group of people who are focused on higher ed that for most part, don’t tweet a lot of personal stuff.  While on the subject of social media, let me point out that last week we changed the commenting on this blog to Disqus. This is the same service that InsideHigherEd and the Chronicle use, thus allowing you to use the same account here. Of course, I realize a lot of people will not want to leave comments on a state-run blog. Shucks, sometimes I get nervous about posting here.

There were stories posted today about the announcement of a new deputy undersecretary at USED over at InsideHigherEd. And there is a story in the Chronicle about Secretary Duncan’s criticism of the response to the proposed rating system by the White House.

Finally, let’s talk some data.

Did you know that 29% (44,229) of undergraduates at Virginia public four-years received Pell grants in 2011? For private institutions, 51% (41,280) of undergraduates received Pell grants. However, when you look at just in-state students (and take a huge number of students from Liberty out of the mix), the percentage of Pell students remains at 29% (38,974) for public four-years, and  46% (14,775 ) for the private institutions. These numbers (and more) are available at:  http://research.schev.edu/fair/pell_dom_report.asp

Did you also know, you can check the graduation rates of students entering as First-Time in College (FTIC)  2008-09 with Pell grants at http://research.schev.edu/gradrates/subcohorts.asp and learn that the four-year graduation rate at public institutions is 30% and 24% at private institutions? Of course, if you stop here and do not look at the report, you will miss the fact that graduation rate for the privates is driven down by the low rate for Liberty students. I suspect these students are the non-resident students taking courses solely online. This is why it is important we use metrics like graduation rate with cautious sensitivity and a real understanding of how they work. It also suggests that we should breakdowns on the subcohort reports based on domicile.

Another important point (that I have made before) is that we have far more detailed data available than USED and the White House, and we don’t rate institutions.

There is a probably a reason for that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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